whenever you think of your time in the organisation you'll remember all of the books.
every year at a convention, new books brought out.
shelves at home groaning under the weight of multicoloured covered wts books!
Good point Lost in the fog about Ec 12:12...their 2013 NWT words it this way:
"As for anything besides these, my son, be warned: To the making of many books there is no end, and much devotion to them is wearisome to the flesh."
It was truly exhausting, boring & laborious reading through what eventually just became a pile of waste!
Talk about a fulfillment of prophecy...Ec 12:12 is fulfilled in the printing factory of the WTBTS!
i am not sure how you all feel as we all left at different times for different reasons.... but this new bible seems to have put some final nails into a coffin that was once my jw life.
the religion is so far and so different to the religion i grew up in that it has become something i feel no affiliation with anymore, no bond, no shared ideas or even sentimental views.
different teachings on when the end is coming.
Foolednomore: "...what it was in the past and is now is very much a real joke. It has changed so much. Alot of BS! You can see it clearly now."
Ephesians 6:4 in the old WT/JW New World Translation read:
And you fathers, do not be irritating your children, but go on bringing them up in the discipline and mental regulating of Jehovah.
Ephesians 6:4 in the WT/JW Revised New World Translation now reads:
And fathers, do not be irritating your children, but go on bringing them up in the discipline and admonition of Jehovah.
It literally took the WTBTS/Jehovah’s Witnesses some 60 to 70 years to figure out that you don't "mentally regulate" a young mind unless your intention is to turn your followers/rank & file members into mind-controlled cyborgs...sadly, which is what most JWs act like!
thesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.
truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.
Matthew 24:45 is a statement Jesus made in the form of a rhetorical question...he didn't intend to get a reply from his audience. There are many instances in the Bible where Jesus would put a question out to his listeners and his listeners would quickly reply with an answer...Mat 24:45 is different. Jesus was merely creating a dramatic effect or making a point rather than wanting/expecting an answer from someone. Who but a knucklehead in an audience would attempt to reply to a rhetorical question!
The rhetorical question:
"Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time?"
Whose the knucklehead who raises his hand to answer that rhetorical question?
The Watchtower Bible & Tract Society/Governing Body Of Jehovah's Witnessses.
does anyone know what publication is being studied at the midweek meetings.
i used to know but it has flown out of my brain.
it is treating some of past issues that were once taught by the wts or have seen material that questions it.
Amen to the following statement by WokenfromJWcult:
Today,s meetings would even blush the Pharisees.
I'm hearing more and more that a lot of the public talks & mid-week meeting parts including opening and closing prayers are being handled by teenage lads fresh out of diapers...sorry, meant High School!
massive new document written by wt, 837 pages, meant for arguments vs officials and media to defend the disfellowshipping arrangement.
found in the casefile in norway.
meant to be secret.. .
Thank you annihilator for the link!👍
Wow...you'd think a con artist or swindler wrote this Manuel! This quote is from the first few paragraphs:
"It is inaccurate to depict the practice of limiting contact with an expelled or disassociated person as unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses."
This cruel & mean form of discipline is indeed unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses! It's also probably the main reason why soo many XJehovah's Witnesses end up committing suicide!
No shit...if Watchtower/Jehovah’s Witnesses stopped Disfellowshipping & Shunning there would be a whole hell of a lot less suicides in this toxic cult!
i was wondering what your guys' meeting attendance was like.
our meetings here is like 50/50 with zoom and in person.
the spanish has it a little "better" with it being like 30% zoom attendance with most attending in person.. i've heard of congregations in other states having attendance where most (even elders and ms) attend meeting only via zoom and even have their cameras off.
Yep...Kingdom Hall in-person meeting attendance was pretty low in my neck of the woods also. Zoom meeting attendance was decent...maybe 60% Zoom & 40% Kingdom Hall.
here is the thing: i tried several times to watch the convention...i just couldn't seem to forge ahead with it.
the reason i wanted to was to be able to engage in conversation about it with some of my old friends that communicate by phone that don't know i have disassociated.
i want to be able to slip in seeds of doubt, but at the same time i have to seem a bit current...) so i welcome to know any take outs, commentary, good or bad, or the video plots, etc.
There are a ton of boring low budget videos with bad acting all 3 days. Then, to add insult...after each video the speaker proceeds to summarize what you just watched as though you couldn't figure it out on your own.
i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.
that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.
unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .
Similarities between an old broken watch and the Jehovah's Witnesses/WTBTS religion:
1) Broken and in need of serious repair.
2) Faulty manufacturing.
3) Has sentimental value only to those who possess it.
4) Not accurate most of the time.
5) No body else wants/needs it. Of no real value or use to anyone else.
6) Looks nice from the outside.
7) Not reliable and is misleading & deceiving.
8) Time to discard it and move-on!
i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.
that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.
unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .
Fisherman: Obviously JW make mistakes but they do their best.
Even a broken watch is still of some use...I have an old watch that looks nice...I get a lot of compliments when I wear it & it's tells the right time twice a day! 😀 😃 🙂
i don’t understand how jehovah’s witnesses can rightly claim:.
that less than 150,000 faithful christians existed prior to the 20th century....when allegedly millions were martyred during the first 3 centuries of the common era alone.
unique ability to interpret scripture...when interpretation of prophecy has been 100% wrong for over 130 years.. .
I don’t understand how Jehovah’s Witnesses can rightly claim:
21) That first and foremost what determines whether a brother qualifies to serve in the capacity of Ministerial Servant or Elder is the amount of time/hours he reports on his monthly time sheet.
When a C.O. visits the congregation and meets with the Elder Body to see if a certain male member of the congregation qualifies for appointment...the very first thing he asks for is the brother's publisher card to see how many WT field ministry hours he reports on monthly. Of lesser importance to the C.O. is how he measures up to the Christian character qualifications set out in the Bible at Titus 1:5-9 and 1Timothy 3:1-7 where no hourly requirement is even mentioned!
